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A few hours ago I was looking for some food safety information, found a US gov website posted on reddit and

The website wasn't available anymore


We also inverted the food pyramid recently since the whole thing reeked of big sugar/grain lobby, it can take a while for research to percolate above propoganda, and I'm not above suspecting the new pyramid of having its bias'

Yeah the new one is trash. Meant and dairy are correlated with bad health outcomes. The Danish food piramid is legit. More legumes, whole veggies etc

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1hpiuem/the_officia...


This sounds exactly like the "Mediterranean diet" my doctor recommended to me a long time ago.

New pyramid leans very heavily on meat and dairy which goes contrary to most long term dietary studies. Those are industries that lobby heavily.

Big Bread vs Big Cow. Both are needed for pizza so maybe we can swap the pyramid for a rectangular "office tower" shape and call it a truce. Good opportunity for Big Pizza.

Wow, what Chinese government site in Mandarin did you use instead?

It's a bit of a poor example as well, because there was a long time when people were importing Australian baby formula into China because they didn't trust the food safety standards there.

Try learning German or French

I think you might be looking the wrong direction along the timeline.

yeah seriously

I don’t understand the point you are trying to make. Is it that since the person didn’t find the page they were looking for, they must be a Chinese plant?

Try reading the entire context of the thread this time.

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How many of those coins do you need to pay for a triumphal arch with drones and snipers on top of it?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-arch-drones-snipers-9.73...

Look, there's your safety, forget about the food safety, obviously the real priority is the snipers. I feel so safe already.


You're goat, I'm trying to reproduce code from a paper and by following their instructions I can't even get packages to install because they conflict

They probably didn't conflict at the time, see if you tell the resolver to use versions no newer than the publication date (like uv's `exclude-newer` option). I've gotten deps for older research code to install with that one simple trick.

I honestly don't know, there's a conda environment that should be used to install everything without conflicts but well...

I was honestly ok with the silly looking posters. Where I'm from in italy it's common to have sagre, sort of cheap food events sponsored by the municipality/local shops. Before ai the posters looked like each other (as in, poster typically looking like sagre posters). Now not even that, they're just slop ai that could be everything before you read. Nobody needed better looking posters in this case...

Before ai example https://www.sagretoscane.com/sagre/fi/rignano-sullarno/sagra...

Post Ai example https://www.instagram.com/p/DZiKFZgIwcY/

Here's an article by the biggest online Italian newspaper, worth reading translated https://www.ilpost.it/2026/07/26/ai-locandine-sagre/


Yikes. The old posters had an austere beauty

And the old fluo ones are more effective than decorated new ones, since they're mostly on road sides and you need to be able to tell at a glance what they're about. I unironically went to a sagra recently because I spotted a similar fluo advert while cycling in Tuscany

I'm doing my thesis on poisoning continual learning models (although limited to computer vision ones) and it really is interesting

Tell us more please. This is super cool.

Ok sorry but I forgot to read if there were answers.

So I still have to do things concretely and have moved to another country, for now I have mostly read papers (...). But well anyway

There's a class of ml algorithms that belong to continuous learning, what they do is integrate knowledge as they operate. In short, the difference between a traditional ml is that once it's trained the weights don't change, while here they do.

The thing is, there are a handful of techniques that you can used, based on your scenario, to degrade the performance of these models. In a white box attack you assume you have access to training data and training process. you can alter the training data, for example in the computer vision field you can add a small perturbation to images (not visible to human eye) so that the model might learn to recognize that pattern rather than the actual animal in picture for example. Or you might swap labels. But white attacks sound kinda obvious, come on... Well mostly, some white box attacks are more subtle and can be used to put a backdoor in a model that only activates when it is seen again during operation, much more stealthy and dangerous because you might target a very narrow class or a single one without degrading its performance for others. Example, you put a shape on a "stop" sign photo, and that shape gets recognized as "go" by a self driving car which now doesn't recognize the stop sign, but recognizes stop signs without that shape glued to it

A black box attack such as rip https://arxiv.org/abs/2412.01154

Can operate without having access to the model or the training process. The gist is, continual learning models might make a few errors when operating (as every ml model), and it's not a problem if they ingest them and update their model based on an incorrect prediction, in a regular scenario... But in rip, you craft a dataset of predictions you know are incorrect (you have a photo, you know it's cat, model predicts dog) and you send them to the model a lot of times. The model eventually will have degraded performance because continual learning models are updated based on the predictions they make, and making a lot of bad guesses degrades performance.

There are other attacks that are not white or black box but in between, assuming you have a copy of the model can allow you to craft an image which is made so that when sent to the model, what the model does when updating the weights is basically climbing the gradient

I'll leave a few links because I wrote this in a rush when busy

Models Cotta https://arxiv.org/abs/2203.13591 Continual Mae https://arxiv.org/abs/2312.12480

Attacks https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.08505

https://proceedings.iclr.cc/paper_files/paper/2025/hash/ec4f...

This is a grouping of different techniques and defences for continual learning https://dl.acm.org/doi/full/10.1145/3585385


Fascinating stuff! Thank you for taking the time to write this post.

Welcome

A big store chain in italy (mediaworld/mediamarkt) sells laptops without license as well, of course with a lower price than the equivalent with windows license


What did it say? Deleted now


In italy they were even arrested but always cleared of what they were accused. I don't believe the US gov did a better job investigating them either


>Their claim about Rose City Antifa seems to be false, however, conflating Rose City Antifa with another project called Rose City Counterinfo.

Can't make it real


With sumup I get 0.5% cashback up to a whopping 10€/ month lol. There are other cards giving cashback, I think Amex blu has a 1% with no upper bound of monetary cashback


Amex has very spotty acceptance rate in Europe.


I haven't followed the legislative process, where can I find that the eu wanted a single registry but the country pushed for national ones? Because i have never read it.

I'm not saying it's not true, it's just that it's so hard to follow these things when one is supposed to have a life as well


There has been reporting on this in many places. Here is one:

https://packaging-journal.de/en/eu-commission-wants-to-scrap...

"According to the Händlerbund, the European Commission's proposal to abolish the requirement has been on the table since December 2025. However, discussions in the Council of the EU were suspended a few weeks ago after a majority of member states spoke out against it."

"A restricted version is currently being discussed in the European Parliament. According to this, an exemption is only to apply to micro-enterprises with up to 49 employees and an annual turnover of a maximum of 10 million euros. A first reading is scheduled for October 2026 at the earliest."


If you need to both:

a) exempt companies with under 50 employees to not kill small business

AND

b) are okay with doing so, ie. there's little consequences from exempting companies from this

Then this is the mark of a terrible piece of legislation. What problem are we actually addressing here by creating another fee collecting, headache inducing registration regime and the 684th enforcement bureaucracy in the EU over yet another trivial consumer issue?

Yes, single use plastics aren't great. Incentivize companies to move away from them by creating positive market incentives instead of creating an anti-productive, full time packaging Stasi.

It's almost as if the people attracted to a career in government can only imagine their subjects responding to the stick, even though the carrot is often far more persuasive. This is the classic downfall of all economic central planning.

The problem with this particular topic is it's a religious one for many in the urban monoculture. They don't ultimately care about packaging waste, they care about punishment and repentance for humanity's existence. We've angered the gods and must repent via punitive measures! To incentivize good behavior is antithetical to that, even if it is more effective at actually doing the thing.


What does "positive market incentives" mean for you? My immediate thought is various subsidies, but given how those usually end up (easy money for companies spending more on lawyers than actual productive work), I'd much rather just have a tax.


The tax won't actually create the desired outcome though. In practice the tax is basically just a wealth transfer from the private sector to the state, who will use that money to dump into boomer pensions and not invest in packaging innovation.

Punitive taxation doesn't invent new technologies. Investment does.

For example, the only reason the electric car market even exists today is because of subsidies 15 years ago.

I agree subsidies can easily turn into a boondoggle, but so can the state itself given more tax money.

Ultimately, I personally think government choosing to focus time and money on this specific thing over other far more important issues is dumb (like say, the thousands of young men dying in Ukraine right now, the social welfare debt spiral, the lack of a capital markets union, the lack of any coherent military strategy, etc. etc.)

But if we're going to posture as if we actually care about this issue, we are going about the desired outcome the completely wrong way.


Ok ty


You have to use the FOIA-equivalent of your member state to get access to the documents submitted to the EU by your country.


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