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How are they supposed to assimilate if they have to leave the country to apply?

It slows down the flow, which facilitates assimilation of the smaller pool people who go through the process. You’re much more likely to assimilate if you’re not living in a place with thousands of other people from your origin country.

Define assimilation please!

- i started watching football with my american friends

- i studied the american political system enough to have educated discussions about it

- i caught healthcare fraud at federal level which was mainly hurting very old americans.

- i started doing barbeque

- i started going out on the weekend

- i tip heavily

what i don't do: eat at drive throughs, buy stuff that i don't need, guns etc.

I still carry a chip on my shoulder and worry about ICE just detaining me for no reason.

"They don't assimilate" is just a cover for "They don't look and talk like us".


The things you’re describing are superficial. My wife’s dad is a Japanophile and she grew up eating sushi, etc. That doesn’t make her Japanese.

Assimilation is about how you think and what you value. It’s not just knowing about the American political system, but understanding and embracing the values and worldview that created it.


Go ahead and tell us what it means to be a real American then

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Your description of 'real Americans' remind me of the description of Gavin Newsom as 'looking like an American president in a Canadian movie'.

Are you a real American? Am I?

I’m not. I have a Bangladeshi sense of the flow of time, I have basically traditional beliefs about family structure, raising children, social obligations to elders, etc.

But I appreciate and enjoy Americans the same way I appreciate and enjoy the Japanese.


> I’m not. I have a Bangladeshi sense of the flow of time, I have basically traditional beliefs about family structure, raising children, social obligations to elders, etc.

Why don't you live by your principles and return to Bangladesh? To use your own argument (not mine), your culture is both inferior to the American culture and Americans have voted to not have "your kind" here.

One way or another, you are being disingenuous, either through your words or your actions.


And how much does the Trump administration understand and embrace the values and worldview that created the American political system. How much do they agree with the Founding Fathers? ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.’?

Honestly, not very well. Trump is from an immigrant background. He doesn’t talk like an American (unlike Obama or Bush or Clinton). The American right these days is filled with people from recent immigrant ancestry whose understanding of American values is something of an impersonation of the real thing.

The founder’s America ceased to exist at the national level with the election of FDR.


Was that "Rose-uh-velt" or "Roos-uh-velt"?

FDR was quite blue-blooded himself.

>>Assimilation is about how you think and what you value. It’s not just knowing about the American political system, but understanding and embracing the values and worldview that created it.

Now you are just bullshitting bc you think you have ran out of substantive things to say, which you never had, to begin with.


Do you think that people from different cultures don’t have different values and worldviews?

Do you think that kids born in America (or anywhere for that matter) don't care about fitting in with the other kids? Did you? When you were a kid were you more concerned about your Bangladeshi heritage or not being an outsider amongst your peers?

And yet I'm sure you didn't lose respect for your family and background, because one can do both things simultaneously. But those other brown people are different and bad and have bad culture that ruins things, right?


> - i started watching football with my american friends

And I'd assume and hope parts of your native culture rubbed off on your American friends.

As someone whose ancestors have been American for quite a while (1850s) I can't make sense of the idea espoused by some on this thread* that "American culture" is something that needs to be strongly protected from changing and that's why we need to virtually lock-down immigration.

The feature that makes "American culture" powerful is exactly that it assimilates to the people who come here, not that they assimilate to it.

* (not you, this is just a convenient jumping off point for me to chime in on)


>> And I'd assume and hope parts of your native culture rubbed off on your American friends.

not that i know of, actually all the american friends i have made are super respectful of my native culture, especially the food and festivals.


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> But is that true? Massachusetts is one of the most functional states in the country. It is both affluent and prosperous, but also orderly and well governed. What’s a good part of Massachusetts culture that doesn’t come from the original British settlers and their descendants?

I spent the first 22 years of my life living in Massachusetts around the Boston area and a lot of my fondest childhood memories center around celebrating multiculturism: St Patrick's day parades in Southie, Saint Anthony's feasts in the North End, August Moon Festival in Chinatown, etc.

> Wouldn’t New York City be a better city—cleaner, less corrupt, more orderly—if it was in Massachusetts?

I don't think so, I also lived in NYC for a year in 1999 and have visited it many times before and since and found NYC a much more interesting and vibrant place than Massachusetts, though both have their charms.


> I spent the first 22 years of my life living in Massachusetts around the Boston area and a lot of my fondest childhood memories center around celebrating multiculturism: St Patrick's day parades in Southie, Saint Anthony's feasts in the North End, August Moon Festival in Chinatown, etc.

Those are all superficial. Without those cultural influences, Massachusetts would still be basically the same state, just with worse food.

> I don't think so, I also lived in NYC for a year in 1999 and have visited it many times before and since and found NYC a much more interesting and vibrant place than Massachusetts, though both have their charms.

“Vibrant” is a euphemism for “chaotic and dirty.” Nobody ever says Copenhagen is “vibrant.” Massachusetts is objectively better than New York in almost every way. It has great schools while New York has shit schools, but Massachusetts spends 25% less per student. Massachusetts has much lower corruption, greater state capacity to perform public works, etc. Those are the measures of a place—not whether it is “vibrant” or “interesting.”


Honestly, it is pure hatred and plain stupidity.

They don't have the same religion, customs, values, history, etc.

Assimilation takes generations, and the point of integration is that some of their culture is retained. That is how you get pizza snd maffia to New York (to name two random examples), or how languages evolve.

For example, I am from Amsterdam area. The culture there was heavily influenced by Jewish diaspora, and the dialect by Yiddish and Bargoens. The street language nowadays is a mish-mash of English, Jewish, and Arabian culture, as well as that which influenced Dutch language before (mainly English, German, French, Latin, Greek, and I am probably forgetting to mention some). Some parts of our culture are still artifacts from past, we just take them for granted. Last name for example, was introduced by Napoleon. The Austria-Hungarians had influence on the south, and religiously the Catholics are mainly from south (as well as entire Belgium) with the North (above the rivers) being rather Protestants. Language-wise, Belgium's history of three languages is of interest, you could say the same about Switzerland. I wouldn't call USA solely English-speaking either. Heck, just look at the names of places around SV.

Also, would you tip if the food was terrible? I wouldn't. They should be happy I paid (my wife before I knew her once had soup so salty, she send back to kitchen. Chef said was normal. They didn't resolve, yet the soup was on the bill. She and her friends just left).

My recommendation to you? Well, I am not from USA but been in Cali a couple of times. Pivot to people who accept you for who you are. Don't hide where you're coming from, use it to empower you instead.


I feel like we agree on a lot so I don’t get your conclusion.

> They don't have the same religion, customs, values, history, etc.

Correct. But why is it “hatred” for people to not want immigrants to bring foreign customs and values with them? Customs and values are substantive! The customs and values of people around you affect your life, especially in a democracy where those people get to vote on the laws that govern you.

> Assimilation takes generations

Correct! You and Stephen Miller are on the same page about that.

> That is how you get pizza snd maffia to New York (to name two random examples)

Correct again! Why is it “hatred” and “stupidity” if you think the pizza wasn’t worth the mafia?

> For example, I am from Amsterdam area

My hypothesis is that New York City would be cleaner, more polite, better governed, and more orderly if it was still New Amsterdam. But the food would be crap. Do you disagree?


Ok, but do you eat peanut butter and drink root beer - those are the sure signs of full assimilation.

Sorry where I come from we drink peanut butter and eat roots are we still American?

clearly in detention centers

Stop with your logic, please. Obviously they must complete American Nationalism training, readily available in whatever country they come from, which they can learn from Voice of America.

This has frustratingly low information density for a technical writeup. The LLM output on the marketing page is whatever, but here it really feels like my time isn’t being respected.


It starts out alright, and then ends with a pile of classic Claude-isms and an unreadable slop graphic. Like the author got bored of writing it halfway through.


"Unreadable slop graphic" xD


This is already how busybox works. These examples are taking it to a more extreme level but it's not _that_ crazy.


AIUI, on Windows, pip (via the vendored `distlib`) also makes stub executables that work this way to implement the "entry points" defined in installed wheels. See: https://github.com/pypa/distlib/blob/master/PC/ReadMe.txt


I think this is the most an HN post has ever bummed me out, congratulations I guess.


On the other hand, you get these comments. “Always look for the helpers.”


The Pokémon card mania in particular is deeply weird to me. I play Magic at a local card shop a few times a month and it’s always full of people playing Magic, D&D, or various board games. I don’t think I’ve seen a single person playing the Pokémon card game. So who’s buying the valuable singles? What’s keeping the market afloat? It’s bizarre.


It's a collector's market, the value is in the demand and scarcity. Same as with all other collectibles like baseball cards and such. Or even wines, there are some that are so old they become undrinkable but cost like a car. In collectors market the price is detached from any kind of purpose of the item.

Also consider that most Magic cards are also valuable only because of their collector status. The valuable ones are mint first editions and nobody is buying them to play them.

So who fuels this collectors market? Nostalgic 30-something that have now disposable income and want to buy things they wanted as children. Same as with videogames collectors and such. You don't need an original copy of Supermario to play it, but people still spend thousands to buy it.


Pokémon TCG seems to have turned into a contest among opportunistic resellers to see who can buy up all of the cards and sell them to ... collectors? Other resellers? Who knows?

Which is a shame, since the game itself is actually fun. Or it would be if you could buy the cards easily and cheaply.


a recent few shorts / scroll to see them: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1RY5RYlgymrW3mZVmJOVUOnF...

tldr: fights, and watch someone buy the entire shelf at walmart in one transaction.


People in their 30s and 40s. It is the same thing with boomers and comic books. What was once in mass circulation in your childhood is now out of print and commanding real value among your nostalgic peers.


Sure, that explains vintage cards. I’m more confused about the demand for new ones.


My guess is literally just the people who trade them - and maybe like, 10 13 year olds.


The user base is the problem on Bluesky, at least for me. It’s full of well-meaning middle-aged people who don’t understand online discussion etiquette. Any non-political post that gets any sort of traction will get filled up with irrelevant bot-like (but real, as far as I can tell) political meme replies that barely make sense.


I'm just happy to be somewhere where even the "bot-like" replies aren't actually bots. Impossible on Twitter thanks to the blue-check promotion.


I maintain an RSS reader for work and Cloudflare is the bane of my existence. Tons of feeds will stop working at random and there’s nothing we can do about it except for individually contacting website owners and asking them to add an exception for their feed URL.


I was recently contacted by one of my website users as their RSS reader was blocked by Cloudflare.


Unfortunately its not really Cloudflare but webadmins who have configured it to block everything thats not a browser, whether unknowingly or not


If Cloudflare offer a product, for a particular purpose, that breaks existing conventions of that purpose, then it’s Cloudflare.


Not really. You wouldn’t complain to a fence company for blocking a path if there were hired to do exactly that


Yes, I would. Experts are expected to relay back to their client with their thoughts on a matter, not just blindly do as they're told. Your builder is meant to do their due diligence, which includes making recommendations.


They are enablers. They get part of the blame.


Well it doesn’t break the conventions of the purpose they offer it for. Cloudflare attempts to block non-human users, and this is supposed to be used for human-readable websites. If someone puts cloudflare in front of a RSS feed, that’s user error. It’s like someone putting a captcha in front of an API and then complaining that the Captcha provider is breaking conventions.


I contend this wasn’t an issue prior to Cloudflare making that an option. Sure, some IDS would block some users and geo blocks have been around forever. But, Cloudflare is so prolific and makes it so easy to block things inadvertently, that I don’t think they get a pass and blame the downstream user.

It’s particularly frustrating that they give their own WARP service a pass. I’ve run into many sites that will block VPN traffic, including iCloud Privacy Relay, but WARP traffic goes through just fine.


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Ah yes, just wrap every protocol in HTTP to get through middle boxes. Just use chrome for all requests becaus fuck having a standard with different implementations. Next you're going to recommend to just automate a Windows PC through simulated mouse and keyboard input to deal with hardware attestation that these fuckers want to bring to the web.


Not my fault if the whole world bought the "openness" bullshit and then built cable-TV-with-mouse.

If that guy makes money with that and has an issue with the Great Firewall Of America, there's a (bad) solution.


I don’t think this is an EFF project, is it? The submitter is just using their Twitter account as an example.


It was. In the last year it’s become largely conservative, and not in a standard reasonable small-government, etc. way. It’s like reading Facebook posts from your dumbest uncle.


It didn't become, just suppressing what was already there is gone.


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