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You didn't even need to read between the lines, that was basically what the CEO stated point blank in interviews and in his writing.

(I noted the same thing a few weeks back, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48341224 but his recent blogposts should make it crystal clear if there was any lingering doubt).


Also just having the ease of access to an LLM means you're more likely to reach for it. Combined with intermittent rewards, it's mentally exhausting.

Maybe it learned how to speak from Data on TNG?

>which describes images in natural language,

See CLIP https://github.com/openai/CLIP


Why wouldn't they be lenient with the geofencing, presumably they _want_ people to use this unlike EU alternate app store, so there's no need to use the uber-strict geofenced and they could instead just gate it based on something like account creation location.

You can do this on macOS too, if you're willing to break all forward/backward compatibility and make direct syscalls you can have a purely static binary. Without the LC_LOAD_DYLINKER command on the mach-o binary the kernel should just jump to the entrypoint based on LC_UNIXTHREAD. (This may not longer work on arm machines though if they actually trap on direct syscalls not through libSystem, similar to the BSDs)

The same art world (or more specifically the "Consumer Aesthetics Research Institute") also named "Frutiger Aero" the defining aesthetic of 2000s, even though it was really only seen in a few places (Aqua aesthetic is very different from Aero). All of this should probably be taken with grains of salt.

Is CARI part of the ”art world”? Where have CARI said that Frutiger Aero was ”the defining” aesthetic of 2000s? They are working to identify many different aesthetic trends that existed in parallel, not one that defines each decade.

Their description of Frutiger Aero explicitly includes Aqua, both mentioned by name and included visually:

https://www.are.na/consumer-aesthetics-research-institute/fr...


There is no “official opinion” of the art world. These are just different organizations with their own opinions.

In fact, when you see someone in the art world claiming that X is a "defining" anything, it usually means that they have a big collection of X for sale.

In this case, I imagine it's submarine marketing for the movie that's out.


Submarine? Astro-turf or native-advertising, maybe? Or perhaps I misunderstood.

Basically the same. An “article” planted by a PR firm, where the promotional target just happens to pop up about halfway through.

I'm not sure this magazine is nearly popular enough for that to be worth it.

hacker news is, though. I'd be interested to see if the same article has been posted to two dozen subreddits etc (though not so interested as to actually do anything about it lol)

I never got why Frutiger Aero got so popular as a ‘nostalgic’ aesthetic, when it’s basically the Windows Vista, GNOME 3 (the awful rewrite of GNOME 2), KDE 4.0 (the buggy, emo black rewrite of KDE 3) look?

It was the lowest point of computer graphics. Who the hell is nostalgic for that? Probably just kids that had their formative years in those ~2-3 years. Not sure you can even call it a niche.

I’m a fan on the vaporwave/Windows 2000/XP aesthetic, the Vista era is when everything started going to shit.


Its fascinating to me. I grew up in the UK home computer scene of the mid 80s-early 90s. After this, the Frutiger Aero aesthetic seemed to me redolent of the total corporatization of what previously seemed a much more human and approachable computer world. Now everything was behind glass, impossibly polished by unfathomable, expensive machines. I found it totally alienating.

Same, I hated when everything transitioned to it and became harder to read as a result. Frutiger Aero was a sterile sort of cheerful in a way only a CEO could think was relatable. It basically marked the turning point where the UI stopped being something janky that felt human made, into a mass produced corporate template.

Looking at it felt like the visual equivalent of licking soap.

Every time I see it now, I can only think “good riddance”.


Well yes, nostalgia is based on age. The people who are nostalgic for that grew up with those sorts of UI.

Yeah, even nostalgia is no longer what it used to be...

Welcome to old age :-).


They never specified what exactly the product was, without which it's impossible to judge the post.

For some reason most of the uses of "agents" are to build yet other AI products, it's turtles all the way down. Maybe that says more about the field of harnesses than it does about the power of "agents".


There is a sense in which it doesn’t matter at all; many of the limitations of agents in large codebases are just the context management challenges. So proving that you can cohere and progress at O(1m) is a useful scale observation. “Can I use agents in my 1m line codebase?”

There is of course another sense in which the output quality is the only thing that matters. “Can I use agents to build a 1m line codebase that I want to maintain going forward.”

I take this as being exclusively a tech demo of the former. Quality (feature velocity, bugs, scalability) is not demonstrated.


Feels like the active discovery going on is trying to understand what is computer vs what is AI, for every product.

Agents help a ton with the discovery, but the act of building a product needs a deeper level of thought and validation to make it actually better than what came before. So IMO what you see is people still learning what needs to be understood and crafted first hand to make a product better (including economics)

We’ll get there if more of us try


>as China's "lying flat" movement

No, you miss that "lying flat" is only possible when cost of food/living is low and housing is abundant.


I believe the closest US equivalent is to get on disability to subsidize those costs. (Especially effective in cheaper areas.)

Getting on disability is insanely difficult and pays jack shit. That is not a US equivalent by any measure.

Even then, it's only possible when someone is willing to subsidize it, unless both food and housing are free.

Our lying flat is opiods. Generating dark money and killing off the useless, isn't late-stage capitalist empire great?

Opioid overdose in America kills the uneducated, not the college graduates who failed to launch.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10559184/#aoi230067...


Lying flat isn't done only by college graduates, it's a broad youth movement. Uneducated people aren't happy to work soul-destroying jobs with long hours for little pay any more than college graduates, and have less hope for escaping that situation.

Great way to filter out garbage benchmarks (many have Meta Muse at the top)

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