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Structural support in the floor? There are people that weigh more than this. It’s only 20 gallons


As someone who has over 800 gallons in aquariums between three tanks in his house, I'll say structural support is not as important as people make it out to be (ask an actual structural enginer). Anything up to 120 or so is just fine hanging out on a floor without extra support.

Also steel is completely unnecessary unless you're doing something wild like that guy in NYC with a 17,000 gallon home aquarium. If you're just throwing a 200 gallon or so on a second floor, an enginer might not care at all if its across the joists or has a wall below it, but even if its completely open below, the "support" might just be a joist of a different design, or an inch thicker or one extra joist. Steel is really not nessecary


But big tanks do need extra support. This is a relevant thing to post in case someone is thinking about scaling it up.

The Pfizer building in NYC almost collapsed after they tried to build a swimming pool on the roof. This happens semi-regularly when building owners ignore, or don't consult, engineers about rooftop swimming pools. Every owner wants one and doesn't want to be told no.


"almost collapsed"? Probably an overstatement.

If anyone wants to read more about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfizer_Building#Structural_det...

    > This happens semi-regularly when building owners ignore, or don't consult, engineers about rooftop swimming pools.
Another wild overstatement. Yeah, I'm sure the city approved this office to residential converstion with a rooftop swimming pool that has no engineering analysis. "This happens semi-regularly": Can you provide other examples? I couldn't find any with a cusory Google search.


Pretty sure the pfizer building was vertical expansion without reinforcement.

I dont think they got to the pools. I worked for a company that did a bid for the electrical work. Edit: there was a pool. Didnt have on plans at time

Second edit: looking at wrong plan. There was a pool but it was basically a blank plan with annunderdesigned roof.


Ok, they also added an entire building on top, not just a pool


I looked it up, you are looking at 160lbs (75kg).


Seriously, this is a cool project and I’m sure the person had a lot of fun which some people are apparently allergic to.


It's just not very interesting as a whole. A quant and his programmer gf living in ny stack 3 fishtanks in a rack. It's questionable why it's even on here at all.


I don't care about the rest, but "stack 3 fishtanks in a rack" is interesting enough to read about to me. I upvoted it, maybe just to spite you :)


Rack plan:

HU 42: TOR switch. 41-40: management server (2U). 39: git server for `fish` (1U). 38: build server for `fish` (1U). 37-28: fish (10U). 27-24: plan9s. 23-14: plants. 13-5: plumbing. 4-1: UPS.

Don't put your UPS under a fishtank, folks. It becomes an IPS when it gets wet.


> Don't put your UPS under a fishtank, folks

You know, maybe I should reconsider having my UPS at the bottom of a rack that contains one server in the middle with liquid CPU cooling... Or just add a liquid sensor between them somewhere perhaps.


Eh, it's probably not that bad, especially if you have more stuff in between. How much liquid is in the server?

Contrary to popular belief, one drop of water on the case of an electronic rarely breaks it. You do need to get a substantial amount inside the electronic to break it.

I remember building a water sensor kit as a kid and going to the bathtub to try sensing water and my mom rushed in and stopped me because I was putting electronics near water.


also... if your server's leaking you probably don't care if the power also gets interrupted.

Unless the UPS catches fire, which would be bad.

You could put some absorbent or barrier material in between for paranoia. Don't need a whole new rack, although you could.


Disagree - engineers documenting fun and quirky DIY projects is very much in the hacker spirit. Before reading this I didn't even know aquaponics was a thing, much less a thing with a "thriving online community".

...also, maybe I'm reading too much into this, but why not "a programmer and her quant bf"? She's the one who wrote the article on her own blog, and this is primarily a community of programmers.


To each their own but I thought it was a fun post. I enjoyed seeing a post that wasn’t “AI is terrible” or “Everyone should use AI for everything”


You are getting downvoted but your username is "indoorfish" so maybe you know more about this than most here?


Some exhausts can sound cool but at someone that lives near a road I don’t think people should subject other people to loud exhausts. Just because someone installed a subwoofer (depending on how the audio was before) doesn’t necessarily mean they are blasting it so loud it is bothering other people. Some cars have pretty horrible stock sound


I wish the car modders would adopt things like Active Sound Design (ASD) that some car manufactures are using to pipe vroom-vroom noises through the car's speaker system. It seems like the perfect compromise. The driver wants to hear his car's loud vroomvroom, and everyone else -doesn't- have to hear it.


These "technologies" are unbelievably "cringe" (for a lack of a better word).

Car enthusiasts want the sound to come from some mechanical aspect. They want the sound and smell of burning fuel, pushing pistons up and down at extreme speeds with hundreds of other rotating and spinning parts working in unison for a cool sound.

A speaker diaphragm moving up and down 20 to 100 times a second doesn't quite scratch that itch. A speaker can nearly "replicate" any sound, which takes the fun out of it.


The drivers of such cars want to draw attention to themselves. But I wish your solution would psychologically trick some of them at least. I sometimes catch myself holding my breath when one of these passes by and it is still very distressing even if I temporarily plug my years with my fingers.


Hearing the vroomvroom isn’t the same as feeling the vroomvroom.


As a car enthusiast, I hate that fake engine sound. It’s so inauthentic and is on the same level as someone painting racing stripes or flames on a Toyota Camry so that it “looks faster”


Great game! I love the timer, I’m just absolutely abysmal at scrabbled letter games


When I put in directions on my phone it gives me turn by turn directions in the gauge cluster so I don’t have to look at the center screen as often


Wow that’s a bit harsh. You can’t think of any examples where you may need to send a string to something but want to do it quickly?


Yeah maybe a bit harsh. But the point is if you are looking for that kind of performance, I don't see why you wouldn't send binary data and then unpack it as needed.


If you control both ends of the pipe, then sure. But for better or worse, large chunks of infrastructure expect to send or receive JSON.


csv/tsv are alive & well for interorg data pipelines


But JSON uses floats, not integers.


Does it really? I assumed it used strings.


javascript uses floats as its own default numeric data type; but other languages do have integers, and might want to convert those integers into a JSON (string) representation


Because maybe the choice of serialization format isn't under your control?


It’s quite easy to not burn yourself. I’ve done a fair bit of soldering and it has only happened like twice to me and it wasn’t that bad


The most important thing is having your workspace organized. Second most important is to put your iron in the holder when you're doing anything else. ADHD types will get more little burns.


Maybe someone wants to hear from an actual human rather than risk hearing a plausible but potentially incorrect answer from AI


I think with Windows you probably are the customer and the product


Cory Doctorow had an essay about that years ago, except he didn't artificially limit it to Windows:

"Even if you're paying for the product, you're still the product: Incentives matter, but impunity matters more."

https://pluralistic.net/2022/11/14/luxury-surveillance/#liar...


No it’s like a mild pressure on some teeth for maybe a day or two but then doesn’t really feel like much


Nice! I hope no kid today has to go through that. It's easy to say it's worth it now that I'm 30 years removed and have straight teeth, but still have vivid memories of those awful days.


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