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On one hand, this is insidious when targeting children.... On the other these kind of metrics are what pretty much every company tries to optimize.

We're going to get better and better at hacking the human brain - for good and evil and we're going to have to trade some free will and personal liberty to really keep the worst of it in check. The dark pattern bullshit is the easiest thing to regulate but I don't have a lot of hope for even that.


Which is fine. As the article points out, we value markets because they find ways to allocate resources effectively. Insider trading is illegal because it breaks the market.

Firms can optimize as they like, but if the net result is that the market ceases to function, then those behaviors get penalized.


I don't get how it's okay to commercialize public side walks.

Can I just put a vending machine on wheels, park it in front of people's homes, and raise a 100M to replace convenience stores?


In many jurisdictions you can. The source article is from California, and under California law cities generally must allow street vending.

Guess what, human couriers use the sidewalk

A vending machine is not a human tho.

Human couriers also walk on the sidewalk.

Public in capitalism means only "up for grabs".

Do you think roads are somehow commercial property?

The bigger concern is more around the pollution of the gas turbines. Populations around the DC are going to see higher rates of Asthma, Respiratory diseases, Heart problems, and certain cancers.

They'll buy your politicians who will give them zero checks on raising energy prices or poisoning your children's minds

Have they been doing this? Evidence?

How's a 170 million pieces of evidence for poisoning children's minds

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2019/09/...


How is this related to poisoning anyone’s mind

Looks like they collected some metrics. I’m fine with this


The trump family is literally in office and accepting bribes from every tech company in existence.

Lol how willfully ignorant can people be?


What does this have to do with my comment exactly?

Apathy is not evidence of anything, not even ignorance.

Shameless self plug but also worried about the silent quality regressions, I started building a tool to track coding agent performance over time.. https://github.com/s1liconcow/repogauge

Here is a sample report that tries out the cheaper models + the newest Kimi2.6 model against the 5.4 'gold' testcases from the repo: https://repogauge.org/sample_report.


This is cool - just wanted to note https://marginlab.ai is one that has been around for a while.

are there any tools anyone knows to collect this kind of telemetry while using the tools instead of offline evals.

running evals seems like it may be a bit too expensive as a solo dev.


8M is kinda small potatoes - which is essentially the AWS business model. Sure you could build a cheaper thing but that is hard and this thing is right here, easy(ish) to use, and your company won't regret using it until you've moved into a different role.


We need to basically get rid of all exportable tokens. Require signing of all requests by a hardware backed key.


Working on a oss tool to help orgs identify where they can save on token costs: https://repogauge.org

Happy to run it on your repos for a free report: hi@repogauge.org


Definitely feeling this - the subsidized subscription plans are already starting to buckle.


The problem with AI is that it isn't like any previous technology. There may be temporary jobs to fill in the gaps but they won't be careers. The AI will do the process engineering and self optimization. The prompt witchcraft is a good example because today its totally unnecessary and doesn't actually increase performance, and they'll continue to make it easier to direct/steer the models.

We're literally trying to build an intelligence to replace us.


We?


The human species. "We" doesn't include everyone and doesn't necessarily imply the process happens through collaboration and planning (conspiracy). The race to automation is happening as expected; outside any group control and bound by competition. Game theory suggests the end result is us being replaced, if we make it that far. "We" as a species are the ones making it happen.


There is a very very small percentage of humanity that’s pushing this stuff on everyone else. In fact most are saying “please stop”.

“We” as a species certainly aren’t making it happen.


It is estimated that over 99.9% of all species that ever lived are extinct. The average lifespan of a species is 1–10 million years


Bad bot.


Okay…


Good one. "We" are not Demon Sam Altman or that clown of Anthropic or Google or Microsoft


Don't forget you are also not Meta, xAI, Mistral, Alibaba, DeepSeek, Zhipu AI, Moonshot AI, ByteDance, Baidu, 01.AI, MiniMax, or Tencent.


Assuming we get smarter than human AI but keep control of the guidance and off switches we will be in the position of a king or rich person with servants smarter than themselves of which we have many historical examples. I figure it will go kind of like that but with more equality amongst the humans than historically as we'll be able to vote in some sort of socialist like set up with all humans having fun which has not been possible in the past as you need someone/something to do the work to keep things going.


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