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They need to multiply by 100 to move that fine out of “cost of doing business” range.

They should multiply by 100 and then by another 100 with each violation. That'd help prevent companies from racking up fine after fine after fine. The real solution is to lock executives behind bars, but if the CEO is a citizen of another country you're kind of stuck with fines and bans

They just need to ban these companies from operating in their countries. They are fundamentally burdens on society run by bad people.

Your best case scenario with fines is getting them into the narrow definition of compliance just until a new "innovation" gives them a different way to conduct the same abuse while evading the letter of previous judgments.


This works best when you've got the ability to opt out of using those companies. If there's no meaningful replacement for a company's services or the entire internet is infested by it to the point where it's unavoidable a ban isn't going to do much good.

What would a ban on Google look like if people still want to email others using gmail accounts, watch youtube, or use android devices? What would a ban on cloudflare look like when all of your nation's traffic passes through them? One way or another these companies will end up with vast amounts of your people's data and the EU should be able to hold them accountable somehow for holding, selling, or using it in ways that violate their laws. Fines are pretty much the only lever they have to pull.


Result would be Balkanizing the internet. The cure might be worse than the disease.

there might be an oversight component of the settlement that is not prominent in the press releases

This is a judgement from the DPC in Ireland, which has a history of reluctance [0] when it comes to enforcing the GDPR on US corporations, e.g. in [1] they even had to be ordered by a court to start investigating. I don't see the Irish DPC voluntarily choosing to take on more oversight here.

[0] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/09/ireland-fails-to...

[1] https://cooltechzone.com/news/court-irish-dpa-must-investiga...


> I still cannot believe a company like Microsoft can fall so low.

They have always been so low. I cannot believe a software company can be so hilariously bad at their core business and yet rise so high.


> Instead they're trying to monopolize biology.

That’s the recurring theme with these companies. They are not there to serve anybody else but only themselves. They let you use their infrastructure so they can collect all the knowledge and data, and then they take it from you to reap all the benefits and profits.


This seems to be in the same spirit as Justine Tunney's SectorLISP. Very cool.

https://justine.lol/sectorlisp/


Or sectorC

https://github.com/xorvoid/sectorc

Edit: I wonder if sectorC could compile python1024


SectorLISP makes an important question in its implementation: how much can strip down Lisp before stops being Lisp. Same is not done for submitted interpreter. So, although SectorLISP goal is to be a Lisp-reduced-to-its-essentials implementation, the Python-1024 goal seems to be imitating Python in most minimal code possible.


> If Project Zenith is a "distraction-free Windows experience," does that imply that everyone else is using nerfed experiences with needless distractions?

Yes.


Well, I mean, no. It could mean that regular Windows has things that could be distracting for developer workflows but might have other legitimate purposes.

Like when a Porsche 911 trim strips out the AC and stereo to provide a "distraction free driver experience" that doesn't mean that those things are "needless" to everyone else.

(Though in truth Windows 11 is full of dumb crap, but that doesn't mean we have to try---and fail!---to play clever lawyerball word games to make the point.)

(And honestly, I don't think MS's idea of a good developer experience is going to be the same as mine or most of HN's. There are entire other worlds of 'development' out there.)


Bad example.

AC and radio don't turn themselves on every time yu start the car. The typically need to be turned on.

Distractions in Windows are turned ON BY DEFAULT, like MS store suggestions or MS edge forcing you through the first run wizard, etc etc


imagine you had to pay to turn the radio _off_, otherwise you would have to listen to ads the entire time


The funny thing is: They have plenty of more-or-less standard issue developers at MSFT, they'd just need to ask them.


Don't they just use Macs at Microsoft?


my gripe is, isnt this filling the role pro was supposed to fill?


And the irony is that we don’t even need APIs for social networks to drown in botspam.


I mean... It'd change nothing for the worse. It's regular users that are getting screwed by lack of API.


> branding suicide.

Or not. I mean, if you had no voice and nothing to say before, you can amplify that signal 10x now. Basically, you’re boosting your brand as a tasteless brainless schlub.


> Shortcut

Shotcut.


Why, does Nvidia care what models run on their hardware? Are GPUs getting cheaper if they run open-weight models?


Nvidia is party to a number of circular funding deals that would land them in an exciting situation if the other involved parties, i.e. frontier US labs, were to bite the bullet, for instance if the market in general broadly switched to open weight models as better value for the dollar.


OK, that makes sense.


Cool. I never thought I’d see the day.


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