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I’ve blown a few minds explaining that the Internet is delivered via light, sent through very long fiber optic cables under the sea.

I thought this was common knowledge until the first time I explained it, and the disbelief... Everyone had a revelation that day.

I always knew about fiber optics, growing up with dial up and dreaming of one day having a fiber connection. But I guess now that everyone is focused on mobile that piece of infrastructure is abstracted from even reasonably tech savvy people.



I recently visited friend at his lab. I cannot say much but they work on patent for something he calls “pantone fiber”. Basically within one cable they are able to squeeze about 16,000 different shades of R/G/B “working” next to each other. When I grasp the idea it blew my mind - he looked at me and smiled saying - “yeah about 10,000 times faster than current fiber”. He said two things tho - one state of tech is not ready for such speeds and latency - unlesn you have 16K def TV. Second he said they wont release it until much more cable has been layed out. So that of course they can restart relaying new cable again and make more $ ;)


Isn't this just an advancement on wavelength division multiplexing?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavelength-division_multiple...


Did your friend say 10,000 times faster or 10,000 times bandwidth? By using different color simultaneously , you can stuff more data but I can’t imagine it becoming faster than speed of light it already travels at.


For a bit, yes. For N bits, more bandwidth means more effective speed.


Well, no, not unless you define speed as “bandwidth”.

If it takes 1ms for the 1 bit to get to the other side, it’s still going to take 1ms for N bits to get to the other side, even N-multiplexed.

It’s the bandwidth that’s improved with multiplexing.


While you're technically correct, isn't it pretty much an accepted fact that when people refer to the "speed" of internet, they are actually talking about bandwidth?

E.g. "how fast is your internet", etc.

It's of little value to the end user to know how fast a bit travels, all they care about is how fast they can download.


I'm sure he knows that and is just being pedantic for the sake of it


On HN? Never!


How did they think it was done before you explained it to them?


I asked this question to a class of smart 18-19 yo college students a few years ago. Almost everyone thought it was done with some kind of wireless transmission (e.g. "by satellite"). The idea that it was physical cables lying in the mud of the sea bed was a revelation.


Did they speculate about how it was done before fiber optics?


I'm sure that Marcono would like their answer as well.


I’ve met quite a few non technical people who assume the Internet is carried by satellite.


I distinctly remember "learning" this in K12, before getting deeper into the technology industry. One of our textbooks had a diagram with lines showing signals flowing from continent to satellite to continent. It wasn't until I got deeper into the industry that I learned satellite latency is awful, bandwidth is limited, and everyone uses cables or microwave point-to-point links when they can. (Actually, the role of those point-to-point links is drastically undersold for how ubiquitous they are in our cities. Worked with some Ubiquiti gear professionally once, and now notice them everywhere).


It's actually a very reasonable assumption, as most people don't really know about the limits of fiber, but they do own mobile phones which seem to work almost wherever they are thanks to wireless technology.


It's not reasonable once you consider the bandwidth of satellites.


"Normal" people don't know that kinda stuff.. Let's be honest, they make many of their assumptions from TV and Movies - and often those disaster movies focus on the world grinding to a halt because "the satellite network is down" (I do the same with other industries!)


And the delay


Depends where you are located... e.g. for cook islands this is the reality till they also get their own fibre optics in mid 2020.


that was my own assumption until I learned about the under sea cables.





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