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Is tipping getting out of control? Many consumers say yes (yahoo.com)
13 points by twiddling on Jan 23, 2023 | hide | past | favorite | 9 comments


"Dylan Schenker is one of them. The 38-year-old earns about $400 a month in tips, which provides a helpful supplement to his $15 hourly wage as a barista"

I'm a consumer who agrees that tipping is out of control and here is a perfect example. This barista expects to be tipped. I empathize with that and understand why from their perspective.

However, let's look at it from the customer's perspective.

I go in, place an order and pay all well in advance of any kind of "service", in fact, I'm just as likely to have done that all without interacting with any employee. Now I'm presented with a menu of tip options... What am I tipping for? Did the barista get my order correct? Was it processed in a timely manner? Who knows as they have not even seen the ticket yet.

As a customer I am being explicitly asked to tip for service that I am unable to evaluate. The business has decided to try to make me directly responsible for their payroll and allowed them to dodge paying their employees and their taxes responsibly.

"Tipping is about making sure the people who are performing that service for you are getting paid what they’re owed"

No, that is what your employer is responsible for. Tipping is about recognizing the extra appreciation a customer has for a job well done.

When a tip becomes expected then it is no longer a tip and employers need to step up and pay people properly. I'm not going to tip and hope I get proper service. On the other hand, I would be happy to tip for service I wanted and appreciated.


If you go to the same place frequently you can tip based on your average experience.


Or if you live in Europe and go to the same place often you can not tip, and no-one will care. No waiter will be angry at you, no business will think you a bad customer. Because you're paying what the service costs, which is why they put that price on the product that you decided to purchase up front knowing it's price and knowing that this is what they expected and would be happy to receive in return for that product.

I don't expect you to necessarily agree with this comment, but I do expect a minimum tip otherwise I'll hate you with every cell in my body since my being able to afford to support my family depends on it. /s


Why exactly are we tipping in the first place? I don't tip amazon delivery drivers and they're way more important to my life experience than a barista


Sadly, we both know the answer to that question.


Why would you keep tipping if you think the system needs overhaul? People should just quit tipping and the employers will suddenly give a way to finance wages from what they earn.


Same problem of every collective action - if you do it unilaterally you end up with spit in your coffee.


Tipping is tiresome and make me feel bad about the transaction, just explicitly charge the prices you'd like to be paid and I'll pay it.


It costs nothing to ask for extra money, and sometimes people give it.




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