Campism has taken root. The US is considered evil, China is the opposition, so it's good.

Same as Venezuela, same as Iran. It doesn't matter if they are brutally oppressive regimes as long as they oppose the US.

I think literally not a single soul on Earth believes anything even close to this. This is a strawman. You wish people who vaguely disagreed with you are this stupid, but unfortunately, they're not.

People don't like Elon Musk because he's a piece of shit. The CCP sucks too, maybe, but it's all the way over there. Also the CCP is an organization, but Elon musk is a dude. It's a lot easier to hate a dude.

Also, most chinese models are open-weight. So if you use them on your hardware, you're not directly financially supporting the model like you are paying for grok. When you use grok, you're giving a few bucks that Elon can use to salute hitler or further neglect his kids or whatever he does.

Also Grok saying it's Mecha Hitler is somehow worse than OpenAI/Anthropic's use by the DoD.

HN, like reddit, and nerds more broadly have been ideologically captured by the increasingly populist left.

Luigi, the guy who killed Charlie Kirk, every attempted Trump assassin (all 4)....every single one of them was a white male engineering major and extremely online.

That is the exact demographic who hangs out here. Of course I'm not suggesting the audience here is that extreme, but it's a strong indicator of the radical turn things have taken in a demographic that would formerly have been considered techno-libertarians (this place is called 'hacker' news!).

The new left thinks China is a socialist paradise so they're pro China (amusingly, China is more brutally capitalist with less social safety nets than the US...but let's not let reality get in the way of vibes). Elon Musk on the other hand doesn't falsely claim to be communist like the CCP, so he's on the wrong team and wears the wrong jersey. And can sometimes being annoying about it. It's that simple.