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> The reason for existence of uutils is ideological, not technical.

which ideology? Are people saying that there's an ideology of pushing rust for things without concern for quality? Sincere question, because I'm seeing that on this thread and I wasn't aware that that was a thing beyond the "re-write it in Rust" meme.

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> Are people saying that there's an ideology of pushing rust for things without concern for quality?

Yes, there is. There are people who genuinely think quality does not matter as log as it is written in Rust as Rust is memory safe.


> There are people who genuinely think quality does not matter as log as it is written in Rust as Rust is memory safe.

Is this hyperbolic? Such people are in leadership places?


The original authors of uutils do not particularly care about licensing, and the Rust ecosystem defaults to MIT/Apache2. So they chose that.

Many people have decided that this decision supposedly specifically about licensing ideology.

You can make up your mind about which of the two you believe.

See also, for Ubuntu's take on this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49707948


As I have told the authors privately, I find it quite difficult to take their claim that they "don't care about licensing" seriously. 13/14 of the projects under uutils are relicensing GNU or GPL'd software. The other one, shadow-rs, is totally vibe-coded, and the README mistakenly says the original shadow is GNU software under the GPL, which is neither true. If 14/14 are relicensing, or in that one case, what is thought to be relicensing, the simple explanation is that it is an explicit goal of the project.

Beside the license thing mentioned, rust folks are obsessed with an idea of memory safety to an extent of discarding every other value in programming. To the extent of considering other choices "immoral". This manifests in their disproportionate initiatives of rewriting otherwise fine programs. Of course this doesn't include copious amounts of unsafe in popular libraries because can't leave any benchmarks defeated. But somehow Go is sinful because multiword data races are theoretically memory unsafe (a property which has led to zero (0) CVEs). This may also be the result of jealousy that something plebian like Go became more popular than their perfectly designed language.

Let's not mention other aspects of security, such as the recent supply chain issue, or the old story of the serde maintainer shipping a binary blob just because...


> To the extent of considering other choices "immoral".

This is literally an /r/pcj meme.


What is /r/pcj? In any case, memes start due to real world examples.

Rewrite it in anything that isn't GPL.

With the motivation of then being able to use it in closed or non-GPL products down the line?



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